Witnesses who are disturbed by this "new light" just might need this,
it may be their first glimpse into reality...
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Another Lie/Revisionist History in todays WT study!!
by BU2B ini caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
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Another Lie/Revisionist History in todays WT study!!
by BU2B ini caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
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The WT has always had on hand enough self contradictory information to be able to cherry pick
its own writings to 'prove' whatever current take it has on any given subject.
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That i sooooooooo true. That is what drives you crazy.
That is why we need facts such as what DontCallMeShirley presents.
Looking up all of those quotes takes so much time.
This is valuable. Thank you, DCMS!
Someone earlier asked, "Why go over this stuff all the time?"
If I recall correctly, that person was never a witness....
Here is the reason:
Sincere people could be reading this. They may be disturbed by what they read.
They may not be able to put it all together, because of the "cherry picking."
They may not have the time, the resources, the "search the internet" ability
and may be very appreciative of this effort.
I certainly do notlike being lied to, and believe that yes, indeed, the WTBTS lies.
I don't like them using people's lives, resources and time for their benefit.
I cried when I read about "prophecy fulfilled" the in the old Finished Mystery book, page 230
Why? I saw they could make anything work, any time.
I never had a chance to see this idiocracy.... lunacy...
Last year, I told my friend that the WTBS would soon be rewriting history,
simply waiting for people who knew what had realllllly happend to die,
just like they have done in the past, then writing something new...
and they are...... they are...
Here is the shell game they play... they play, with your lives:
By the space of a thousand and [six] TWO hundred furtongs.—
This can not be interpreted to refer to the 21(H) mile battle line of the world war. A furlong or stadium is
not a mile and this is without the city whereas the battle line is within the city. See Rotherham's translation.
A stadium is 606% English f t ; 1200 stadli are, mi.. 137J The work on this volume was done In
Scranton, Fa. As fast as It was completed it was sent to the Bethel. Half of the work was done at an average distance
of 5 blocks from the Lackawanna station, and the other half at a distance of 26 blocks. Blocks in Scranton are 10
to the mile. Hence the average distance to the station is 15 blocks, or 1.5 ml.
The mileage from Scranton to Hoboken Terminal Is shown in time tables as 143.8
and this is the mileage charged to passengers, but in 1911, at an expense of
$12,000,000, the Lackawanna Railroad completed its famous cut-off, saving 11
miles of the distance. From the day the cut-off was completed the trainmen have
been allowed 11 miles less than the time table shows, or a net distance of 132.8 "
loboken Ferry to Barclay Street Perry, jew York, is 2.6 "
Barclay Street Perry to Fulton Perry, New York, is 4,800 feet or 0.9 " Fulton Ferry, New York ,to Fulton
Ferry, Brooklyn, is 2,000 feet or 0.4 " Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn, to Bethel, Is 1,485 feet or 0.3
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Shortest distance from place where the —— winepress was trodden by the Feet Members
of the Lord, Whose guidance and help alone made this volume possible.
•.John 6:60. 61; Matt. 20:11.) mL, 1871
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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..
by confusedteenager innot sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.
they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.
of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .
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Pterist: haha!!! loooove it!!! "OCTO-MOM"!!!
.... HaaaHaaa!!!!!! a little cheer in the day
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Do you follow your " spirit directed " conscience and bible principles?
by DATA-DOG invincent toole, solicitor for the jehovah's witnesses, said the fact that the church got working with children checks had nothing to do with steven unthank, whom he suggested was behind the court case.
''we find it disappointing that he continues to misrepresent our organisation.''........
....''jehovah's witnesses abhor child abuse, and place the protection of children at the highest level,'' he said.. .
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(Matthew 23:23-28) 23 "Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
because YOU give the tenth of the mint and the dill and the cumin,
(don't chew gum, don't wear jeans to Bethel, wear your badges after assemblies)
but YOU have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justiceand mercy and faithfulness.
(and children's lives)
These things it was binding to do, yet not to disregard the other things.
24 Blind guides, who strain out the gnat, but gulp down the camel!25 (and hurt the children)
"Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
because YOU cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish,
but inside they are full of plunder and immoderateness. (and plenty of legalistic writing.. "It's parents that have the duty, not us")
26 Blind Pharisee, cleanse first the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside of it also may become clean.
27 "Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because YOU resemble whitewashed graves, (great pressed suits and ties)
which outwardly indeed appear beautiful (look at those beautiful assemly halls, the "Stanley Theatre")
but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness. (pedophiles, court cases, gag orders)
28 In that way YOU also, outwardly indeed, appear righteous to men, ( "we hate pedophilia" )
but inside YOU are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.... ( & lawyers, lots and lots of lawyers)
and sad, sad, hurt children........
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Caught between the Internet and
by cha ching in.
because of the internet exposing the untruthfulness of 607, it makes the claim that jesus took up kingdom power 'began ruling 1914.
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Continued: As well as that, their being chosen in 1919 as anointed cannot be true.
T herefore, it is evident, by their policies and their teachings, one of which is how they handle pedophiles in the congregation, they cannot be guided by God’s spirit.
Police, in an effort to protect the public, will pass out flyers informing you that there is a dangerous sex offender "in your area."
The WTBS hides pedophiles, from people in the congregation.... not even allowing parents a choice to protect their children.
The WT is getting hit from both sides, the wave of the internet, the rocks of the pedophiles.
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Caught between the Internet and
by cha ching in.
because of the internet exposing the untruthfulness of 607, it makes the claim that jesus took up kingdom power 'began ruling 1914.
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Because of the internet exposing the untruthfulness of 607, it makes the claim that Jesus took up kingdom power 'began ruling 1914
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Are born-ins or are converts most likely to leave?
by Julia Orwell inmaybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.
or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?
i'd like to know what you think..
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I was young when my mom studied, became a witness. My husband started studying when he was 12 or 13, & after high school he became a JW.
Both of us had seen sooooooooooo many things happen, over soooooo many years.
It's like you are living in fairy tale land. "Everything will be ok, wave the wand, wait on Jehovah, don't push ahead."
We were always told it was our fault. (Oh, so that's why you lied to us?)
We did not have the resources (old books, internet) to discover the lies being told. Both of us are studiers, researchers, want the "truth", want to "get to the bottom of it all." Didn't have the means.. especially b4 the internet. WT also keeps you too busy. The merry-go-round of: Service, regular meetings, elders meetings, RBC, etc., etc., etc..
My husband's viewpoint: "It always had to be 'me.' "I wasn't studying enough," etc.... When something happened that was obviously wrong, a very faint voice from a distant part of my brain said..... "What if something is wrong with them?" All I did was study WT publications ONLY. It was enough to help me lose a lot of fear based phobias."
My viewpoint: My story is... that I am not sure how long I would have lasted without my husband. After a run in with a brother who wronged us, and post traumatic stress when trying to go in service (we had to turn around and go home as my fear increased as we approached the meeting for service, then... after 6 months? I could go up to a door, start trembling, go home... then... go for a while... etc, etc, etc.. they gave talks at assemblies, I had to leave the area.. ) I think I may have left then... or soon after. Christians should not lie, steal, etc. The brothers that tried to "help us" sort thru it were all liars... caught in their own lies, just stared back at us when I said "Hey! you are lying!"
I couldn't take the "forgive and forget" when no one was willing to admit.
Leaving for me? I wanted to make sure my kids got out. My husband, me and my kids. If I got them out, I'd make it. I have other fam' that's in, others that are not.
I actually thought people could think. When I discovered things, and shared, asked questions, I could not believe how many of my "friends" could not, would not, think. Not even give me a chance. Not even look at the scriptures I presented. Not look at the "history" of JWs... I found my "friends" were not my true "friends." So be it. Who needs friends like that? It is hard to start rebuilding resources at this age, but not impossible. Other people need friends too.
So to sum up your question: We think it doesn't matter if you are born in, or a convert.
Me: I think it depends on each individual, their character, and experience.
Him: When obviously bad things happen, combined with researched facts that contradict printed statements in the WT, anything is possible.
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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..
by confusedteenager innot sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.
they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.
of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .
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"The train is running out of track, but they are going full steam ahead.
They have also blackened out the windows so the passengers have no idea of what's coming."
Perfect illustration, DATADOG!
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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..
by confusedteenager innot sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.
they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.
of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .
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Page 21 Pgph 4: The context of the illustration shows..... and
Let us see how the Scriptures lead us to this conclusion
They have had "context and scriptures" for 135 years... If those two things
have not helped them in this amount of time, why should we think they
have it right now?
If your accountant couldn't straighten your bank account out in 135 years,
would you still trust him?
